TIP616: THE GODFATHER OF INFLUENCE

W/ DR. ROBERT CIALDINI

21 March 2024

On today’s episode, Clay is joined by Dr. Robert Cialdini to discuss Charlie Munger’s favorite book – Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion.

Dr. Cialdini is a New York Times Best Selling Author of Influence and Pre-Suasion.

He is also CEO and President of Influence at Work where they focus on ethical training, corporate keynote program, and the Cialdini Method Certified Trainer program. He received his PhD from the University of North Carolina and post-doctoral from Columbia University. In acknowledgment of his outstanding research achievements and contributions in behavioral science, he is frequently regarded as the “Godfather of Influence.”

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IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:

  • The story of what led Charlie Munger to give a Berkshire A share to Dr. Cialdini.
  • How Buffett and Munger use reciprocity to enrich the world and themselves.
  • What Cialdini learned in his personal interactions with Munger.
  • How the commitment & consistency bias can affect us as investors.
  • Why trust is at the foundation of all great business relationships.
  • How we can utilize the principles of Influence in an honest and ethical way.
  • Why the principle of scarcity is so powerful even in a world full of abundance.
  • How we can guard ourselves against the liking bias when assessing management.
  • And so much more!

TRANSCRIPT

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[00:00:02] Clay Finck: On today’s episode, I’m joined by Dr. Robert Cialdini to discuss Charlie Munger’s favorite book, which is titled Influence, The Psychology of Persuasion. Dr. Cialdini is a New York Times bestselling author of Influence and Pre-Suasion and is frequently regarded as the Godfather of Influence.

[00:00:20] Clay Finck: During this episode, we cover the story of what led Charlie Munger to give a Berkshire A share to Dr. Cialdini, how Buffett and Munger use reciprocity to enrich not only themselves, but the world, what Cialdini learned in his personal interactions with Munger, how the commitment and consistency bias can affect us as investors, why trust is at the foundation of all great business relationships, how we can utilize the principles of influence in an honest and ethical way, why the principle of scarcity is so powerful, even in a world full of abundance, how we can guard ourselves against the liking bias when assessing management, and much more.

[00:00:58] Clay Finck: It was such an honor having Dr. Cialdini on the show, and I hope you enjoyed this conversation as much as I did.

[00:01:07] Intro: Celebrating 10 years and more than 150 million downloads, you are listening to The Investor’s Podcast Network. Since 2014, we studied the financial markets and read the books that influence self-made billionaires the most. We keep you informed and prepared for the unexpected. Now, for your host, Clay Finck.

[00:01:36] Clay Finck: Welcome to The Investors’ Podcast. I’m your host, Clay Finck, and boy, do we have a special guest teed up for the audience today as I’m joined by Dr. Robert Cialdini. Robert, thank you so much for joining me today.

[00:01:48] Dr. Robert Cialdini: Well, I’m very happy to be with you. I’m looking forward to our conversation.

[00:01:53] Clay Finck: Now, Robert, you had a very close relationship with Charlie Munger, who passed away on November 28th of last year and in a post, you wrote, I have never had heroes except for Charlie Munger. So, I was curious to start this interview off, if you could tell the story of how you met Charlie and what led to him reading your book, Influence, for the first time.

[00:02:18] Dr. Robert Cialdini: My understanding of how he got a hold of it is he told me that a trusted confidant of his, an informant of his, had read the book and sent it to him and said, you really need to take a look at this. It’s not about finance, it’s not about economics, but it’s about human behavior, and that allows us as analysts and investors to do a better job of predicting human behavior and making choices that benefit from that knowledge. That’s how he got a hold of it and then this was a while ago, back decades now.

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