BTC180: THE CURRENT CHALLENGES BITCOIN FACES

W/ MAX HILLEBRAND

30 April 2024

Dive deep into Bitcoin’s evolution with expert Max Hillebrand. We unravel Mises’ action axiom, Hoppe’s private property origins, and Rothbard’s economic theories. Discover Wasabi Wallet’s role in privacy, the potential of Ocean mining, and strategies for Bitcoiners to enhance anonymity. Max also shares his take on Bitcoin’s path to ossification and how institutions can shield assets against regulatory overreach.

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IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN

  • The principles of Ludwig von Mises’ economic dualism and the axiom of action.
  • Hermann Hoppe’s theory on private property as a natural emergence.
  • The significance of Murray Rothbard’s “Man, Economy, and State, with Power and Markets.”
  • Innovations in Bitcoin mining pools and the impact of Ocean Bitcoin mining.
  • The role of covenants in Bitcoin and their potential to enhance transaction privacy.
  • An inside look at Bisq and the passion driving decentralized finance platforms.
  • Strategies beyond CoinJoin for improving privacy for Bitcoin transactions.
  • How institutions can use Bitcoin technology to protect their financial sovereignty and self-custody assets.

TRANSCRIPT

Disclaimer: The transcript that follows has been generated using artificial intelligence. We strive to be as accurate as possible, but minor errors and slightly off timestamps may be present due to platform differences.

[00:00:00] Preston Pysh: Hey, everyone. Welcome to this Wednesday’s release of the Bitcoin fundamentals podcast. All right. So one of the really fun things about this job is all the amazing people that I get to interview and interact with. But on occasion, you come across the guest and you finish recording and you’re just like, my Lord, that person is absurdly intelligent.

[00:00:18] Preston Pysh: And that was this week’s guest, Mr. Max Hillebrand. As you’ll quickly see in this interview, Max is an extremely gifted Bitcoin contributor that has a deep understanding of the technology, particularly in privacy. And what is the most important things that still need to be built in order to make Bitcoin the freedom inducing private property money that the world has ever seen.

[00:00:40] Preston Pysh: It gives me great pleasure to share this recording with you. So without further delay, here’s my chat with Max.

[00:00:49] Intro: Celebrating 10 years. You are listening to Bitcoin Fundamentals by The Investor’s Podcast Network. Now for your host, Preston Pysh.

[00:01:08] Preston Pysh: Hey everyone, welcome to the show. I’m here with Max Hillebrand and boy, this is going to be an interesting conversation. I can already tell. Max, we didn’t really know each other too well. We met each other in the UK over at Peter’s event and just thrilled to be able to record with you and have a deeper conversation one on one after our conversation over there.

[00:01:26] Preston Pysh: So welcome to the show.

[00:01:27] Max Hillebrand: Yeah. Likewise, Preston. I’m really excited for this one. You’ve been doing a great work with spreading the good word about Bitcoin. So really honored to be part of the show.

[00:01:37] Preston Pysh: Thank you, sir. Here’s where I want to start. So when I discover people that are really well read, I really want to kind of start with the books.

[00:01:46] Preston Pysh: I know when, when you came out of the UK, you had a, you had some comments on stage about what to read and why you had these opinions on why people needed to read this book. There’s a lot of people in the space that like to talk Rothbart and Mises and all this kind of stuff, but your comments in reference to these books were very deep, very profound and something that I really want to dive into right out of the gate of the show.

[00:02:09] Preston Pysh: So specifically, Mises, you say that this idea of dualism and the axiom of action. Are the thing that you find most important in his work. What do you mean by this? And if you, if you want to provide some of the context of how you stumbled across this very early, I think that would also maybe be useful for people to understand how you arrived at this.

[00:02:33] Max Hillebrand: Very thankfully, my mother pushed me into a child’s labor quite early on. And I say that lovingly because it’s awesome to be productive for people. And that’s exactly what she encouraged me to do. So very early, I got interested in the science of entrepreneurship and what it means to do business and to make money.

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